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Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:04 am by Jerms
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PostSubject: Gentlemen. We have a winrar!   Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:06 am


Well Gents, I have stumbled upon something that akes me rather happy. His name is Rush Limbaugh and he is "conservative" and "liberalist". Except this guy, unlike other "conservative liberalists" doesn't have his head so far up his arse that he cries cheese; like many in our own Liberal party. He has recognized the rights of the video gamer and recognizes video games as a form of art and creative exrpession. This guy also makes an EXCELLENT point on how video games couldn't possibly be targeted by governments and censorship when cable televsion (and ever public) has the shows it does. He says-

"If you're gonna tell people they can't watch a raunchy video game then how do you allow 90% of what's on HBO or Showtime in terms of their original programming? So, welcome to conservatism."

I would like to point something out here. He said "watch" a video game. This means something, he isn't actually a gamer himself. He probably doesn't know much about the market or the community of video games; but re respects their right to exist as a community under THEIR own terms and not under the government.
Sadly, this guy is a little bit too far at some points, global warming mainly..and he is against the ban on transfats...that's mostly illogical if you ask me but if he wants to stress his view of 'the government should not have to the right to limit your access to cultural goods" then...so be it. (that was not me quoting him, that was just a phrase to explain his view)

Anyway gents- that's me for now.
(FULL ARTICLE- http://kotaku.com/5677274/rush-limbaugh-defends-video-games-free-speech-says-this-is-where-the-battle-is?skyline=true&s=)

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PostSubject: Re: Gentlemen. We have a winrar!   Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:15 am

Oh for FUCKS SAKE.
I just did some more reading around about this guy and supposedly he is full of class A horse cheese...
Another time on his radio show he is trying to advocate for a Video game to be banned. Someone was also saying how he was probably just trying to score support for the liberals and doesn't actually believe any of this himself...

Come on...really?
This guy's website is the biggest joke...some photo of him carrying an American Flag and pointing at the camera with his fingers in the "gun pose".
Reminds me of the news reporter from "V for Vendetta"

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PostSubject: Re: Gentlemen. We have a winrar!   Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:43 pm

Jerms, Jerms, Jerms...

Mr Rush is a grade A bonified, John Laws. The depths of his own importance is only more infamous by his own gravitational polarity! (That's right, I put a mother fucking GPE on him! ha!)

I, being more conservative than he, and being somewhat anti-liberalist. Let me try to show you the process of which (and I use to be a C-Lib) you can have a right and left wing ideology stuck. Few people can do that process of mind-set and do it properly (I went full facist after failing to straddle this line myself).

See, you can be morally conservative and ethically liberal. Rush is morally conservative, hes very anti-Obama and anything left of the spectrum. He's a small business supporter and if he wasn't Rush Limbaugh, he would be in the Tea Party movement.

How he gets the liberal tag is by his observations and stand-off demeanor. He's still a rude, un-edcuation halfwit and frankly wish he would turn gay so he can never be conservative, ever (which he opposes fyi, but in the same capacity that I oppose same-sex marriage) and make the world a better place. I have not really listened to Rush aside from the times he gets portrayed by the other media outlets (Talk-Show Radio IS THE PREMIER CONSERVATIVE outlet in America).

I do however need to segway partially here, video games may OR may not increase violence. Violence is older than time itself, the animal kingdom DOES NOT have video games and it is MORE violent than us "civilized" people so liberal go cheese your self because you're brand of "justice" is more mis-labelled than thinking Obama was EVER going to be a AVERAGE president. I went on record at my work in 2007 that HE WOULD WIN and he would be THE WORST PRESIDENT ON RECORD, cheese, hes worse than Nixon at least Richard got cheese through Congress. How the cheese do you NOT PASS A BILL WITH THE MAJORITY!!!

I would wait until the U.S. Senate hearing before you judge that outcome but I will say legally, precident in other countries are mega landslides for other countries and if worst-case happen prepare for independant game makers to come back into the fray and be the source of violent video games since the days of DOOM, Duke3D and Heretic etc..
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PostSubject: Re: Gentlemen. We have a winrar!   Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:08 am

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Mr Rush is a grade A bonified, John Laws. The depths of his own importance is made only more infamous by his own gravitational polarity! (That's right, I put a mother fucking GPE on him! ha!)
I loled. HARD. Very well said. I have been doing abit more reading on this guy and even listened to his show. I think this explains him in the best of words.

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...very anti-Obama...He's a small business supporter and if he wasn't Rush Limbaugh, he would be in the Tea Party movement.

I just did a quick search on the Tea Party guys (Heard of before, just didn't know who). Sound like a reasonable group if they weren't so set on abiding to a document that is older than most of the countries states. (I speak of the Constitution). If there is anything worse than a extremist, radical; it's someone who does not know how to change at all. Anyway- I digest.

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How he gets the liberal tag is by his observations and stand-off demeanor
It seems alot of these 'liberal' radio presenters have this sort of "Cowboy of politics" way about them. Always willing to fire off insults and assumptions at whoever is on the tabloids at the time. Nearly sounds like they choose these people to solely increase the ratings and listener counts instead of getting informed and educated political views. Funny that.

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He's still a rude, un-edcuation halfwit and frankly wish he would turn gay so he can never be conservative, ever (which he opposes fyi, but in the same capacity that I oppose same-sex marriage) and make the world a better place.

Hahaha. Why do we still have conservatives in a world that changes so fast?

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I do however need to segway partially here, video games may OR may not increase violence. Violence is older than time itself, the animal kingdom DOES NOT have video games and it is MORE violent than us "civilized" people

Ok. This is where I have a very stong opinion here.
Video Games are violent, they allow the gamer to destroy and kill hundreds; even thousands of people. They give the GAMER that control. If the Gamer cannot tell the difference between virtual and actual reality- something 'bad' could happen. And it has. Several times. Now you obviously can't blame the games 100%, but It seems that everyone of the Kids who have gone on a shooting spree through a US school was a gamer.
"Kids". "KIDS".
Not adults. Why?
Cause adults have more life experiences and have more reason and distinction between virtual and actual realities.
"HE AGREES WITH US! KIDS ARE SHOOTING EACHOTHER! BAN ALL GAEMS!"
cheese off.
Kids are being effected by these games.
Not adults. Now we have a system inplace already to help prevent kids watching movies that are deemed unsuitable for their age groups.
However for games it is limited to people under 15 being restricted.
According to many people- a 15 year old should be able to play a game where you can shoot hundreds of people, kill people online and even go on a killing spree through a shopping center (I refer to CoD MW2 here). They are allowed to play a game which allows them to beat homeless people with baseball bats, beat police officers with baseball bats, beat hookers with baseball bats and get blowjobs on the corner street in your car. (I refer to "Wollongong; The game" I mean...Grand Theft Auto 4)
So why? WHY do not have restrictions on this?
Because people still think video games are for kids...
We need an R18+ rating on video games.
WE NEED IT.
That way PARENTS can take the blame for letting Little Jimmy play "Hate murder Rape 4: The return of the 12 Gauge Marmoset" after Jimmy is found in school smashing coffee mugs and chairs over the heads of year 7 girls.

It's just stupid that they will completely censor one game (Left for Dead 2), nearly ban one game (fallout 3) and then just forget that even after that kids can still walk in an buy the game that required censoring. If a parent feels that there 16 year old is mature enough, then I see no reason why said parent cannot purchase an R game for him- hence sales will stay reasonable.

Van the fan of lemon parties wrote:
so liberal go cheese your self because you're brand of "justice" is more mis-labelled than thinking Obama was EVER going to be a AVERAGE president. I went on record at my work in 2007 that HE WOULD WIN and he would be THE WORST PRESIDENT ON RECORD, cheese, hes worse than Nixon at least Richard got cheese through Congress. How the cheese do you NOT PASS A BILL WITH THE MAJORITY!!!

SOOOO much cheese. (You are brand of justice? GRAMMAR NAZI REPORTING FOR DUTING). Van you should be a weather man. Good prediction. Unlike the fuckwit on channel 7 "Tuesday will be fine with a slight chance of showers" AND IT'S MORE LIKE "Tuesday is the second coming of Poseidon! STAY INSIDE"


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I would wait until the U.S. Senate hearing before you judge that outcome but I will say legally, precident in other countries are mega landslides for other countries and if worst-case happen prepare for independant game makers to come back into the fray and be the source of violent video games since the days of DOOM, Duke3D and Heretic etc..
OH GOD. I want. Independents ROCK. If more people made games like Duke3D and DOOM, the politicians would be too busy playing these awesome games to worry about who is killing who.

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PostSubject: Re: Gentlemen. We have a winrar!   Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:45 pm

I hate to be the one that corrects you james but you go through an airport shooting innocent people as Russian Terrorist in CoD 4 MW2... not a shopping centre.. eww I suck I hate my life....

I shouldn't know these things ^^

And on the Topic... I concur. lololol

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PostSubject: Re: Gentlemen. We have a winrar!   Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:59 pm

Jerms wrote:
vanhelsing wrote:

Mr Rush is a grade A bonified, John Laws. The depths of his own importance is made only more infamous by his own gravitational polarity! (That's right, I put a mother fucking GPE on him! ha!)
I loled. HARD. Very well said. I have been doing abit more reading on this guy and even listened to his show. I think this explains him in the best of words.

Knowledge is Power my boy.

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...very anti-Obama...He's a small business supporter and if he wasn't Rush Limbaugh, he would be in the Tea Party movement.

I just did a quick search on the Tea Party guys (Heard of before, just didn't know who). Sound like a reasonable group if they weren't so set on abiding to a document that is older than most of the countries states. (I speak of the Constitution). If there is anything worse than a extremist, radical; it's someone who does not know how to change at all. Anyway- I digest.

I personally am against the socialist structure, just because I earn money more than my neighbour whose fucking thought process was it to take all my money and split the combined even between he and I.

I earn more, therefore, I keep more. Tax me %base income and make the % to every person who earn income above the poverty line. Then talk to me. The Tea Party isnt about liberals/conservatives, its about small business and anti-socialistic society which isn't fair or "liberal" (oh cheese, I went there)

Liberalism is freedom. Socialism is absolute and complete fucking over the high income to give the drug users who are poverty struck because they buys drugs rather than bread or milk. Obviously this was a huge tangent and isnt totally representative of the issue but that's how people see it. GREED.

I earn x, someone earns y. x / %base and y / %base = same piece of the pie being paid. The actual sums might differ but its fair and un-biased.
The Tea Party wants to cut taxes for small businesses, give them small business owner the safety of being able to stay in business. Multi-transnations Corportaions were once small businesses also...

Jerms wrote:
vanhelsing wrote:
How he gets the liberal tag is by his observations and stand-off demeanor
It seems alot of these 'liberal' radio presenters have this sort of "Cowboy of politics" way about them. Always willing to fire off insults and assumptions at whoever is on the tabloids at the time. Nearly sounds like they choose these people to solely increase the ratings and listener counts instead of getting informed and educated political views. Funny that.

All "liberal" media is about shock-jocks. Look at that pathetic excuse for a turd Kyle who put a 12 year old girl on *national* radio and jesus, what he got her to say, no wonder teen pregnancy is up.
Also, the WORST thing about it was the civil libertarians were fucking defending him...why? Because conservatives wanted his job axed, making a 12 year old tell her mother ON NATIONAL RADIO! mind you, that shes not a virgin (reports later confirmed she was put up to it) ... that is, more fucked up than anything else i've heard from FM radio before.

Its politics (not the government type, the industrial type) and having the best ratings and cheese how you get them, just be #1. I can admire the determination but frankly, liberals step all over the line of decency.

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He's still a rude, un-edcuation halfwit and frankly wish he would turn gay so he can never be conservative, ever (which he opposes fyi, but in the same capacity that I oppose same-sex marriage) and make the world a better place.

Hahaha. Why do we still have conservatives in a world that changes so fast?

Im ones of those gun-touting, hill-billy, hicks who marries their cousin *end stereotyping* by the way, Conservatives are rare because liberal persucate the cheese out of them rather then letting them BE FREE!

I can hate gay-marriage all I want *HERES THE BIT MOST DONT READ* >> In the context of the current law systems put in place by the governments on both a state and federal level.

Jerms wrote:
Van Helsing wrote:

I do however need to segway partially here, video games may OR may not increase violence. Violence is older than time itself, the animal kingdom DOES NOT have video games and it is MORE violent than us "civilized" people

Ok. This is where I have a very stong opinion here.
Video Games are violent, they allow the gamer to destroy and kill hundreds; even thousands of people. They give the GAMER that control. If the Gamer cannot tell the difference between virtual and actual reality- something 'bad' could happen. And it has. Several times. Now you obviously can't blame the games 100%, but It seems that everyone of the Kids who have gone on a shooting spree through a US school was a gamer.
"Kids". "KIDS".
Not adults. Why?
Cause adults have more life experiences and have more reason and distinction between virtual and actual realities.
"HE AGREES WITH US! KIDS ARE SHOOTING EACHOTHER! BAN ALL GAEMS!"
cheese off.
Kids are being effected by these games.
Not adults. Now we have a system inplace already to help prevent kids watching movies that are deemed unsuitable for their age groups.
However for games it is limited to people under 15 being restricted.
According to many people- a 15 year old should be able to play a game where you can shoot hundreds of people, kill people online and even go on a killing spree through a shopping center (I refer to CoD MW2 here). They are allowed to play a game which allows them to beat homeless people with baseball bats, beat police officers with baseball bats, beat hookers with baseball bats and get blowjobs on the corner street in your car. (I refer to "Wollongong; The game" I mean...Grand Theft Auto 4)
So why? WHY do not have restrictions on this?
Because people still think video games are for kids...
We need an R18+ rating on video games.
WE NEED IT.
That way PARENTS can take the blame for letting Little Jimmy play "Hate murder Rape 4: The return of the 12 Gauge Marmoset" after Jimmy is found in school smashing coffee mugs and chairs over the heads of year 7 girls.

It's just stupid that they will completely censor one game (Left for Dead 2), nearly ban one game (fallout 3) and then just forget that even after that kids can still walk in an buy the game that required censoring. If a parent feels that there 16 year old is mature enough, then I see no reason why said parent cannot purchase an R game for him- hence sales will stay reasonable.

The relationship between violent video games and violent behavior is apparent. Sure I play STALKER, CSS and the like but am I a criminal? No.
Have I beaten my partner? No
Do I go on murderous rampages killing thousands using my car? No.

The people who shoot up schools, video games isnt the cause, its an accelerant. The relationship I acknowledge and thats why we have "Rating systems" but parents dont fucking care. Kids who drink booze at 17, their parents say "its not my child, its the other kids that is the problem" are so neive i could crap on their chest and smooth-talk my way out of court without breaking a sweat and why? A) My job is all about that and; B) People are morons.

I dont like this analogy but its sorta fitting (Stole from Cromartie High too lol) but people are un-education nitwits, like Computers. How do you educate? Install an OS, such as we Install ethics, values, beliefs and the like in a countries traditions, education system, community value and spirit etc.
You dont open the box when you are 18 and everything where it should be. I was set at 14 free by the idiocracy that is the world. Some figure it out at 28, some never do. This is what we get for being humans, can you change this? Nope.
Todays information superhighway and ease of accessing data, wont change this, people need to self-educate and in Australia that value isnt taught and this is why I want to be a teacher now. I cant sit still watching kids growing up without a damn clue how the world works.

I recently spoke to Jerms (second person paraphrasing here Jerms) days ago, he couldnt fill out his TFN. His dad knows and will teach him. And Jerms will know how to do it. Shouldn't a government document be taught by a government institution? Facist, Communists and Conservatives would say so. Being a by-product of all 3 lol, I would say its their (Feds) responsibility to do so. Same with driving, environmental sustainability and there needs to be open forums with sex education because I have seen the material supplied (i know many primary and high school teachers) and its pathetic to say the least.

Jerms wrote:
Van the fan of lemon parties wrote:
so liberal go cheese your self because you're brand of "justice" is more mis-labelled than thinking Obama was EVER going to be a AVERAGE president. I went on record at my work in 2007 that HE WOULD WIN and he would be THE WORST PRESIDENT ON RECORD, cheese, hes worse than Nixon at least Richard got cheese through Congress. How the cheese do you NOT PASS A BILL WITH THE MAJORITY!!!

SOOOO much cheese. (You are brand of justice? GRAMMAR NAZI REPORTING FOR DUTING). Van you should be a weather man. Good prediction. Unlike the fuckwit on channel 7 "Tuesday will be fine with a slight chance of showers" AND IT'S MORE LIKE "Tuesday is the second coming of Poseidon! STAY INSIDE"

Prelude - Lemon Parties?

Liberalism, Liberals, come from the word "Free" when translated (believe its Greek or Latin).
Free isnt the government taking all my money, and everyone elses, then sharing the pie all equally. That isnt freedom, I chose freely to take a high, high-stress job. Where devorce rates are 95% and 2/3rds, happen within 5 years of starting. It's year 3 now with my Inga. I dont want to be that 95% but its not easy. Dont I deserve more money since i suffer having little time with family or for my own social life?

When a plumber, earning a modest salary, who gets weekends and evenings with his wife, and 2.3 kids. Gets the same money in the end as I do? To me, that isn't very free, thats more facist than the "true facist" way of looking at it.

It wasn't prediction, I based it off what I read in news reports and friends. They were (white people) so scared if they openly opposed Obama without being Hilary's cousin or working for her and you were a republican, youd be called a southern-racist. White people dont know how to be strongly opinionated whilst respectful, it happens here. They either make slurs or are so "PC" about it they have no spine and turn the other cheek when some aboriginal steals their wallet.
If that makes me a bastard, then I am one. I won't ever, ever, stand by and watch what "my brand of justice" get perverted and if someone fart-sniffing pro-every-drug-under-the-damn-sun tells me its not "PC to say or do that" then I will spit in his face and tell him to have a good day. I didn't spend my childhood on the Chechen front-lines to hear some asshat leftism nut-case from a country where they have never had a conflict on their own land what's what.

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Van Helsing wrote:
I would wait until the U.S. Senate hearing before you judge that outcome but I will say legally, precident in other countries are mega landslides for other countries and if worst-case happen prepare for independant game makers to come back into the fray and be the source of violent video games since the days of DOOM, Duke3D and Heretic etc..
OH GOD. I want. Independents ROCK. If more people made games like Duke3D and DOOM, the politicians would be too busy playing these awesome games to worry about who is killing who.

There's going to be a big trend back to Indie games. There will still be NBA Live from EA Sports etc, but you'll see less smaller developers making as many games and this is only bad news for consumers, as the bigger labels will have less competition and will suffer because of it.

Indie games wont get better if the main industry die, as the developers and programmers wont all migrate together. 5-10 years, expect no more franchises like HALO, COD to be around. I hope im wrong but my gut is telling me that this is the first step against it all.
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